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Interview with Pamir Kiciman

Pamir Kiciman empowers people in roles as a Life Enrichment educator and founder of Oasis Reiki in South Florida, U.S.A. He spent the last 15 years training in energy medicine, holistic health, intentional healing, meditation, spiritual psychology and self-healing models. I grew aware of his work though a blog carnival. I interview him on self-healing transformation.

Pamir, your work is inspirational. What process led you to realize you are a healer?

This is probably my favorite question. Prior to being a healer, I was involved and educated in the literary and dramatic arts. I spent 20 years in theater and studied world literature and arts from a humanistic and experiential perspective. This was my grounding in understanding what it is to be human. That, and my own life choices gave me a unique perspective; something like a triple PhD in life! A lot of it was hedonistic and self-destructive. It was full tilt and I wouldn't replace it, but in the end my life became unsustainable. The suffering was too great.

There was a spontaneous dawning in my consciousness, which remained only that for about 5 years before I took any action. A guiding nudge finally lead me to the divine intervention I received through grace. I accepted this with abandon. It awakened my willpower and started a long healing and strenuous process. And it eventually changed my life irrevocably.

What have you learned about identity shifts?

I'm not certain that we change identities. As you put it Liara, we shift. The shift is about emerging, more than anything else. It's the emergence of all that you are, instead of only facets of a personality.

I was looking for my self through all my indulgences, and seeking unconditional love too. When I found both, my indulgences ceased and I realized both were already in me. Instead of the unhappy bohemian, there emerged a happy healer who had been there all along. I came into my fullness.

What does it require for a person to awaken to his or her true nature?

Each person's case is a little different, but also the same. Usually, pain is the prompt. If there are no consequences, we continue our misguided ways because we don't have the presence of mind to realize it eventually catches up with us. When pain reaches critical mass there are two choices: continue escapism and numbing the pain (which creates more pain, but unfortunately not always awakening), or pluck up your courage and step onto the path you're essentially choiceless to take.

I 'woke' up at age 33. Nearly 17 years later I'm still awakening and awake, all at the same time. What I mean by 'choiceless' is that if you don't now, you will at some point. The choice we do have is how we prolong or fast track it. Awaken we must, however. That is the setup.

When did you begin sensing and feeling energy more consciously?

I first started sensing energy in the creative process, especially on stage between myself and my fellow actors, the director and the rest of the production crew, as well as between the stage and the audience. I was very aware of the power of the stage and how it's received in the auditorium. Each place I performed, first order of business was to walk all over the stage, look up into the rafters, walk into the wings and backstage; always had to breathe in the space before making any creative choice.

The type of conscious sensing and feeling you're speaking of, began with formal sitting meditation. Because I had substantial personal healing ahead of me, there began an energetic relationship with my organs and body parts, emotions and thoughts. Then there was soul healing.

What triggered this "soul-healing"?

Reiki work expanded my sensitivity, together with other vibrational healing such as sound, crystals, flower essences, and communicating with nonphysicals and/or the spirit of living things like trees and animals. Regarding what triggered it, I started to meditate in the first place because it was part and parcel of the divine intervention made available to me. I couldn't exactly say "no" even as it was excruciating at first. As an FYI for non-meditators: Meditation is a complete solution.

How do you explain sensing personal vibration and other kinds of energy alignment or imbalance?

If we're honest with ourselves, we know when there's mis-alignment and imbalance. There are other factors like fear: for example, you may feel your job isn't energetically matched but are uncertain about changing it or creating your own.

Honesty can be hard to come by because it requires unwavering courage. For many it's easier to continue hiding. Someone I was once helping told me, "It's going to be way too much work for me to learn to love myself. I prefer to continue all my bad habits and surround myself with people who're a bad influence on me." She realized this in a single session and I never saw her again.

I don't know what she did with her insight. What we do with our insights is a personal responsibility. It's the old adage, can lead to water, but...

What advice do you offer people who would like to see and work with auras?

I prefer calling it a personal energy or ki field.

Here's my bottomline on developing such sensitivities: Find an authentic spiritual teaching and practice that is firmly rooted in perennial wisdom and go deep in living, applying and being it.

From there, receive any gifts that emerge with gratitude and most importantly, with humility. Don't seek gifts. Simply seek. Grow and evolve the self. The rest is candy.

How do you teach people to develop faith and trust in a semi-invisible energy process?

My orientation is always practice-based spirituality. Hearing truth has its place, if it's actually truth coming from a lectern or book. Eventually, the intellectual suspension of disbelief has to be transformed into visceral experience and knowing. When you practice, the object of your faith and trust simply shows up, undeniably.

Which aspects of your own transformation process are especially memorable?

This is tough to answer. It's like asking which aspects of Love do you love? My transformation gave me myself, my essence, I can't pick a favorite.

I can say this: The numinous became central to who I am, how I live and what I do. That memory is divine and eternal.

What do you sense is causing a widespread soul awakening and more heightened sensitivities?

It's cyclical. All the various information regarding 2012 is at play here. We are in an ascending age.

Which signs suggest body is merging with emotions and mind in a new consciousness?

There are many signs of a new consciousness from business to science, green awareness, social ethics, politics and in all spheres. It's slow, but we're moving into an inclusive model. The model that no longer serves is an exclusive one.

Old power says "power over." New empowerment says "power with."

Altruism, stewardship and better distribution of equality and resources are essential to our survival. As the supposedly most intelligent species, we've certainly made our world untenable.

Share some lessons you have learned from clients.

My work gives me the opportunity for radical participation in humanity. I am a record-keeper for each person's story. It's said that if you've no one to tell your secrets, tell them to a tree for safe-keeping. I'm that tree.

I've learned that acknowledgment is crucial. Trust is central. Love is without question the most potent force. We share the same secrets. Personality is a covering. We're all ancient. Good prevails. Beauty is endless.

As you reflect on your dreams, what do you gain? Do they help cleanse your personal energy field?

This is one area I can learn from you Liara. I'm very good with the imaginal, but I haven't focused so much on dreamtime specifically. Many dreams are a mind dump, the cleansing you mention. When my dreams are significant, I always know and can interpret.

This suggests you will appreciate my forthcoming ebook called, Harness the Energy of Your Dreams. What additional remarks would you like to share here?

The quality of the questions we ask in large part determine the answers we receive.

Pamir, I appreciate the opportunity to share these insights with visitors. You inspire people to remember everything is energy and that thoughts of love are especially powerful self-heling tools. The simple things in life are so valuable. What a great reminder to focus more on them.

You've asked some great questions Liara, and I'm thankful because it's been thoroughly enjoyable and I've been enriched.

That feeling is mutual. As you imply, it is by taking responsibility for growth that you learn about the self and transcend thought form energies you outgrow.

I invite visitors to explore the wealth of wisdom available at Pamir's Reiki Help Blog:


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Reader Comments (19)

Thanks again Liara. If readers have any questions or would like to expand on anything, we can do that in the comments. I'll be watching this space...
fabulous interview, thank you so much!
June 7, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterLisa (Mommy Mystic)
Hi Liara and Pamir ... what a great interview. I have a few thoughts.

My favorite quote from your interview is here ...

"I've learned that acknowledgment is crucial. Trust is central. Love is without question the most potent force. We share the same secrets. Personality is a covering. We're all ancient. Good prevails. Beauty is endless."

I am truly astounded by how much people need to be heard. And it's really strange the way humans walk through life without seeing one another. It's so strange, but sort of a side effect of being emotionally bankrupt or needful. It's like, everyone is so alone in this world, but they don't have to be. Someone has to remind them about their own humanity, you know?

Second favorite ...

"I first started sensing energy in the creative process, especially on stage between myself and my fellow actors, the director and the rest of the production crew, as well as between the stage and the audience. I was very aware of the power of the stage and how it's received in the auditorium."

I grew up doing theater work for children, and have to testify that the energy is present and real. Now I find it during conversation on certain topics. But when it happens, it's so cool, it's like magic. It's like being able to see the space between air drops, and feeling it is really intense, too.

I'm not a healer, but I do relate in many ways. I think my life's purpose is a bit different, yet I'm still growing and discovering, still a work in progress.

Thanks to both of you for sharing a wonderful account.

June 7, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDonna L. Faber
"Honesty can be hard to come by because it requires unwavering courage. For many it's easier to continue hiding. "

This was the deepest area of my own self-work. I fully encourage readers to go there with gusto. And I assure them that success builds upon success withregards to honesty. After the light is shed into every corner there is no room for doubt or fear.
June 7, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJannie Funster
@Donna: Being truly seen is so vital. People show you their best if you truly see & hear them. Honor the person in front of you.

@Jannie: Transformation starts with courage. Courage faces the fear. Love transforms the fear. Love gives courage a home.
Donna, its amazing how everyone connects in some way with other people even if their paths are not identical. Every human being is energy in the process of interconnecting with everything. We all have the potential to stretch, learn and grow in unexpected ways. We do this together and have more in common than is assumed.

Jannie, honesty is as easy or as hard as one decides it is. SOul is constantly sending messages. Spirit, fellow human beings and other entities are constantly sending encouraging energy through you. As you choose to feel faith and trust, love reigns. Fear miraculously dissolves. The fog disperses as you realize you constantly choose between love and fear. Each one teaches and serves you.
June 7, 2009 | Registered CommenterLiara Covert
What a lovely interview. Thanks for your transparency and your desire to be of service. A real boddhisattva.
June 7, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCatherine Auman
Catherine, your visit is welcomed. Love echoes love energy to everyone and is noticed by those awakening to giving and receiving. You are a blessing in your own ways. To choose to serve others and empower them to awaken changes your perspective and has power to shift others.
June 7, 2009 | Registered CommenterLiara Covert
What an incredible interview - thank you for sharing it! My gosh, his description of certain spiritual and personal development topics was beyond eloquent. Such a gift, on so many levels!
I enjoyed reading this interview and know Pamir through Twitter. Thank goodness there are people like him living and bringing up families to help create a world worth living in.

best wishes,

June 8, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRichard
Megan, at some stage in a person's life (or, during many stages) he realizes something about his thoughts and behaviour does not belong to him. It is something outgrown and clearly not a reflection of the authentic self. You may not yet feel able to put a finger on how this translates in your life now, but helpful visual and other aids present every moment. As an observer, you sense many people are in a process of trying on beliefs and attitudes as if the latest fashion. At a given moment, as you decide what fits, you wear that. It becomes your second skin, but it is not you. Its a facade until the next shift in consciousness or, you reach that point where you are willing to be brutally honest, loving and forget all else. Teachers invite you to rediscover what matters inside. Pamir offers pearls of wisdom to inspire any journey.
June 8, 2009 | Registered CommenterLiara Covert
Richard, you encourage everyone to reflect on the things they feel grateful for. We join cyber-hands in gratitude, share a montage of infinite blessings, one heartfelt testimony at a time. Pamir inspires benevolent hearts, minds and spirits. He encourages self-love and journeys toward a clearer idea of self-acceptance. Just be present.
June 8, 2009 | Registered CommenterLiara Covert

You're more than kind. I'm honored to be in your company.
Thank you Pamir and Liara for this moving interview. So many nuggets of beauty and wisdom are shared here.

"The shift is about emerging, more than anything else. It's the emergence of all that you are, instead of only facets of a personality..."

"What I mean by 'choiceless' is that if you don't now, you will at some point. The choice we do have is how we prolong or fast track it. Awaken we must, however. That is the setup."

This interview is an encouraging tribute to those who are sitting on the fence straddling the path of the healing journey, to just let go and trust in the innermost desire to be free.

Great job!
June 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMiruh
What a great interview Pamir and Liara, very nice!

You're both wonderful role models :O)

So much of the shifts people are feeling in themselves are indescribable at any given moment. It's important to talk like this and tell the stories of transformation, very freeing.


Thanks, David
June 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavid
Hi Liara and Pamir. I have appreciated this sharing. I felt Pamir's enjoyment at just being able to express his message; holding sacred audience to his truth. You've given him a great opportunity Liara. Pamir, I enjoyed "seeing" through your eyes :-)
June 19, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavina
Miruh, learning to trust instincts is a very meaningful process. Pamir shares candid insights and his journey is in some sense, everyone's journey. One need not be contemplating a transition to become an energy healer to relate to the journey of faith, trust and self-honesty.
June 20, 2009 | Registered CommenterLiara Covert
David, as you say, shifts in thoughts, feelings and consciousness are not always readly described in words. I can help to realize you are not alone. Not only can you relate to the transitions and choices of other human beings, you are also guided and supported by unseen entities, angels, or however you choose to view them.
June 20, 2009 | Registered CommenterLiara Covert
Davina, it is a meaningful process to realize we all sense through everyone else. Sometimes people grow selectively indifferent or, choose not to feel compassion and empathy that enables them to relate to others. Even then, to be aware means to be willing to realize why you cut yourself off, why cut yourself short and prevent yourself from allowing energy and intuition to flow as freely as it can.
June 20, 2009 | Registered CommenterLiara Covert

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